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Submitted by Rajiv contact me , An Investor... at Bank Of Baroda....migrating to USA
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US Economy.....is it going in for a slow down or recession..... [ Login to Propose An Edit ]





Friends,

I would like to start a discussion on US Economy...here at Fingad

How it is panning out in next 12-18 months....Is it sure that US economy will slow down or go in for a recession?Or none of these will happen and Subprime Mortagage crisis will be averted....as I read that Subprime Mortagage debacle is the biggest concern and it may put US economy in bad state of affairs.....

What will be the implications of slow down or recession in US itself and to world economy...

Those who are playing in US market, should tell us whether Dow will make a new low or not...if not then is there any chances of making new low is there?as this answer will led us whether one should buy in US market or not..in present...

US dollar is weaker , but then it was weaker before Subprime Mortagage crisis took place...and I have read some where that the US has kept the dollar purposefully weak so as to take care of trade deficit of China with US ,which is as big  as over $300 bn.......I don't understand what that means, $ becoming weak, as I have not dig in how it will help US....

I can only say, on Indian market front that whether there is a slow down or recession or not in US , Indian Economy is going to remain vibrant for times to come and the only way for Citi gr,Blackstone,UBS,Meriil Lynch,Goldman Scahs, and others who have written off billions of dollars in Subprime Mortagage debacle, the only place to makeup that losses is India......

India has a long way to go from here and if one goes by theSensex Indices , which is making newer highs , 20000 and more,and not invest in Indian market then I am afraid it can miss the Bus of a prolonged Bull Market that is going to unfold .......

With P/E of Indian market at 20 , I think Indian market is grossly undervalued while looking to China's Shanghai which isquoting at P/E 55!

Freinds,I have writtem my view and hope all would participate and will write what is their view on US Economy and market and if anyone wants to ask me on Indian Economy...on what I have written or for that matter anything else.....on Indian Economy then he may write me,...I will try my level best to answer it...

Thanks,

Rajiv




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#1 | Ziad_thumb Ziad @ 8 months ago
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I have written a post on this here previously. Nonetheless, here is the latest on the US economy:Lawrence Summers, former U.S. Treasury Secretary under Bill Clinton, warned in an op-ed this week that the U.S. economy is in far deeper trouble than most people understand.

The subprime crisis, he wrote in The Financial Times, has moved from being a financial system issue to a potentially recession-inducing "threat" to growth, one that will affect the entire world and last for years.

"Even if necessary changes in policy are implemented, the odds now favor a U.S. recession that slows growth significantly on a global basis," Summers wrote.

"Without stronger policy responses than have been observed to date, moreover, there is the risk that the adverse impacts will be felt for the rest of this decade and beyond," he wrote.

Summer cited several statistics, including a housing market that is in "free fall" from prices that seemed to be at "basement levels a few months ago." One forecast sees house prices declining as much at 25 percent over previous highs.

Foreclosure rates will accelerate, he pointed out. Adjustable-rate mortgages will soon begin to reset to higher rates, forcing the pain to spread to other credit markets, like credit card and auto loans.

Banks simply won't be in a position, in that case, to keep ahead of the steam on the economy. New lending will wither, and even "good" borrowers will encounter trouble, pushing prices down even harder as the number of buyers dries up, Summers warned.

Add to that a weakening dollar, high energy costs and problems in the Middle East.

The U.S. government must quickly enunciate a clear public policy regarding the financial system or face the consequences of a crisis that feeds on itself and will likely continue to do so for longer than is necessary, Summers urged....and the government must own up to the reality of the problem - and do it quickly.

"In the U.S. today, as in many other countries in the past, confidence will return the first day an official statement about the economy proves to have been too pessimistic," Summers wrote.

Is there a way out? Yes, says Summers, and he prescribes three steps:

1. Lower the federal funds rate to stimulate the economy, and potentially offer low- and middle-income families tax breaks or add spending to foster confidence;

2. Establish a clear policy on declining credit availability; and

3. Keep up demand for housing, perhaps through direct government loans to home buyers.

Existing adjustable-rate loans likely to default should be automatically converted to lower, fixed rates in many cases, he contends.

"All of this may not be enough to avert a recession. But it is much more than is under way right now," Summers wrote.  
#2 | Andy_thumb Aandy20 @ 8 months ago
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Hi Rajiv,I'm aware of arguments that the weakening dollar will produce more exports for the US and that would contribute to overall GDP.I have a question for you. As a US investor, are you aware what the regulations are to invest in India? Are there certain companies that we can trade from the US? Your input here would be much appreciated. And thanks Ziad to that overview. 
#3 | Who Rajiv @ 8 months ago
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Hi  Ziad,Thanks for the post and the view.But still my questions are unanswered and that is , 1)Is it prudent to buy in US stock market now?2) If US economy is to slow down considerably then where will the Dow move?How much down it can go and hence how will one buy in US market if Dow or Nasdaq is going to go down?Last line of Mr Summers says that recession will not get averted then how one can buy in US market or give a Buy Call......atleast one has to wait for the dust to settle , see where US economy stands after a year and then can think of buying some stocks....As far as I can recall , Warren Buffet lately has aired his view that US economy is slowly going in to recession...Hence now the question that arises is how much time it can go...The time frame is important....I hope you will not take my queries otherway and will revert with your answers for them,and btw, I suggest to visit my blog :http://rajeevdesai.blogspot.com/so that you can know me well...and am sure you will find something there useful as well...am sure about it....Thanks,Rajeev
#4 | Ziad_thumb Ziad @ 8 months ago
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Hi Rajeev,Take a look at my post here: (I talk about my predictions on the US)http://finga d.com/review/show/dollars-to-the-rescue-
#5 | Who Rajiv @ 8 months ago
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Thanks, Ziad for your link....Regards,Rajeev
#6 | Ab_thumb Michael @ 8 months ago
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Lawrence Summers gives a talk on the state of the economy. It can be found here:http://www.brookings.edu/~/m edia/Files/events/2007/1219_economy/20071219_summers.pdf
#7 | Who Rajiv @ 8 months ago
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Thanks Michael,For the link..but I want to hear in two lines....whether one should invest in US market now or not?I read all these, but wants to know exactly what one should do in US market..If one invest now, will he be in loss in next 6 months?If yes, then why he should invest now and not wait for 6 months more..That answer is still eluding me....Regards,Rajiv
#8 | Ab_thumb Michael @ 8 months ago
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Rajiv,As you know, no one can say this for sure. My answer to that is it depends on what sectors you want to invest in. What has worked for me is the technology sector. I made a bet on vmware when it was 67 and the results have worked out nicely, although I think it's still too learly to tell. In my view, to invest in the major banking corportations it's probably worth waiting another 6 months. Reason is the credit-subprime mess is being unfolding and it's still unclear how the banks will be perceived. For example, Bear Stearns lost a big chunk of value on the exchange because of the latest events. In my view, I think these are great companies that will continue to perform well and these events make them a bargain for purchase... I hope this addresses your question. 
#9 | Ab_thumb Michael @ 7 months ago
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Interesting that the Fed cut the federal funds rate by 50 basis points to 3 percent. No joke folks, we're seeing a recession on the horizon. Of course there will be those to analyze if the fed is acting too late and the symptoms of decline have already begun. My view is keep an eye on the stocks that have decreased in value and enter the positions that everyone is selling.
#10 | Ab_thumb Michael @ 7 months ago
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Interesting that the Fed cut the federal funds rate by 50 basis points to 3 percent. No joke folks, we're seeing a recession on the horizon. Of course there will be those to analyze if the fed is acting too late and the symptoms of decline have already begun. My view is keep an eye on the stocks that have decreased in value and enter the positions that everyone is selling.




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